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    Default The Force Awakens - Spoilerific Discussion.

    This thread is for confirmed info about The Force Awakens, and confirmed info only.

    I thought I'd get it set up ahead of time so we have a repository for reviews etc, without tainting other threads with spoilerish info.

    This is important to me, as so far all I know, I know from the trailers and the preceding official books and comics.

    There is but a single additional rule to posting. Every post must start with a copy/pasta of the follow italicised text. This is protect the sidebar from inadvertent spoilerage.

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    Please. If you don't want to know anything about it until you've seen it, quit this thread. This is your first, final and only warning.

    For beyond this point?

    HERE BE SPOILERS

    Right. Time to abandon my own thread until at least Thursday morning, when I'll have seen it.
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    Bah. It'll be Thursday evening at the earliest for me to see it, and those crowds are too crazy to deal with, so likely Friday. I'm going to try to talk my friend (and anyone else who wants to go) into going to the 9:40am showing.

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    Just seen it.

    Wow.

    Like......BIG MASSIVE HAIRY WOOKIEE BALLS WOW.

    It is superbly superb. Truly, truly awesome.

    Familiar motifs are played out, but in new ways.

    If you're taking someone who's not massively familiar with the preceding 6 films, don't worry. This one is self-contained awesome-win-sauce, and doesn't require Knerd Knowledge. At all.

    The action scenes are fantastic. Properly, properly fantastic.

    There's some characters I felt were under utilised, including Phasma - but we're dealing with a trilogy here, so plenty of room for manoeuvre now the opening act is out there.

    Oh, and take your tissues.

    You're gonna need them.
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    Just got home from it now and wowzers was it amazing.

    Highlights:

    Seeing a little girl dressed as Rey bopping her brother dressed as Vader on the head before the film started.

    Seeing lots of little girls being excited for the film

    The cast's chemistry together is so good

    "Who's in charge now, Phasma? Who's in charge now?!"

    Lady stormtrooper!

    Adawble x-wing pilot survives! (Jess Testor I think? Called Jessika Pava in the comics/novels)

    Ladies everywhere! And non-white people too!

    BB-8 was very cute (headbutting R2-D2, the thumbs up, shocking Finn)

    Doctor telling Chewie he must be very brave

    Rey. Just everything about her is amaze

    "This one?"
    "The one I'm pointing at."
    "This?"
    "THE ONE I'M POINTING AT!"

    Lightsaber scenes very dynamic but not as over the top as 1-3

    The whole scene with the two gangs on the freighter

    "Women always find out."

    Pretty much any scene with Han tbh

    The two stormtroopers who turn and walk away when Ren is freaking out


    Cons:

    Chewie didn't talk to Leia after they came back from the big mission! That one seems really wrong but I can see the necessity of having Leia and Rey interact like that but still seems wrong having him just walk off

    The end scene was bordering on Return of the Kingishness with the million endings but not really just a bit of a nitpick I guess

    Not enough Phasma

    "Supreme Leader Snoke" - not only his name but he looks pretty silly


    Not good or bad but just something I noticed:

    Poe really looks like Bruce Campbell in some scenes

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    I'd broadly agree with that.

    I think a crucial part is Kylo Ren.

    He's powerful, and then some. But when the mask is off? He's just a scared little boy. Lost and terrified.

    Soooo many plot hooks I want to know more about!
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    Ok but imagine if they did this instead:

    Kylo Ren: Thank you *stab*

    Han: I love you

    Kylo Ren: I know

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    Went to a midnight screening, was totes amazing.

    First the negatives:
    Phasma was a bit underused.
    Snoke looked like Gollum and Voldemorts lovechild.

    The positives:
    Everything else.

    Rey was wonderful

    Actually I'm just going to echo everything Gott said because she covered all of it lol.

    I am totes shipping Chewie and the Doctor. also Finn and Poe. And Rey and Pava just because.

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    Ok but imagine if they did this instead:

    Kylo Ren: Thank you *stab*

    Han: I love you

    Kylo Ren: I know
    I was thinking that too lol.
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    It's definitely Rey's movie. Daisy Ridley seriously runaways with every scene she's in.

    Weirdest thing for me? At the now ripe old age of 35, I saw the main cast and kept thinking 'nowt but bairns. Y so young?'....which of course is the whole bloody point. Luke and Leia were 19 at the time of A New Hope, so Finn and Rey's youthfulness just brings that back. For wee kids, heroes to look up to. For teens, heroes to aspire to.

    And now for Mr Mystery's Top Three Mysteries......seriously spoilers coming.....

    1. Why did Kylo Ren take out the Jedi? I want to know that story, and I really hope Episode VIII concentrates on that.
    2. Just how big is The First Order?
    3. Why are the Resistance not the Republic?
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    1. Why did Kylo Ren take out the Jedi? I want to know that story, and I really hope Episode VIII concentrates on that.
    2. Just how big is The First Order?
    3. Why are the Resistance not the Republic?
    1. Well Rey says he's afraid he'll never be as powerful as Vader, so I'm guessing also from what he said about Han letting him down that he went a sort of Anakin route of "need to fix my problem" - "need power to fix my problem" - "not getting enough power this way" or something like that.

    2. As big as the plot requires

    3. My assumption is that given they've gone with not recognising the area of space Luke was chilling in that the Republic is big, but not controlling the whole galaxy. Like they're powerful but there's enough room to ignore the First Order for now and let the Resistance fight them as a proxy.

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    Yup, Daisy Ridley gave a superb performance (they all did, but she stole all the scenes).

    1) Based on what is said in the film, Snoke corrupts Ren, Ren kills the other Jedi to prove himself.
    2) I was wondering this too. After The Battle of Jakku the New Republic signs a treaty with the Empire, so is the Empire a splinter group or has the Empire completely disappeared?
    3) If the Empire is still around, then attacking the FO directly could provoke them into war, like a kind of cold war situation.

    Which reminds me I'm glad the New Republic is still around, everyone was assuming they weren't.
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