Playing with non-gw models

[crazyredpraetorian]

You finally finish meticulously painting and basing your entire 40K army and you're about to play your first "painted" game. You look across the table and your opponent starts putting a bunch of unfamiliar figures on the table. It turns out they aren't GW models. What do you think of playing 40K with non GW models?

Personally, I'd feel kind of cheated.

[Madigan]

I'd be perfectly happy to play against someone with non-GW models as long as the models look like what they're supposed to be.

If I'm playing against a Space Marine player, and he puts down a Tamiya WW2 tank and calls it a predator, we have a problem.

If I'm playing someone else and they put down a scratch-built tank cobbled together from various non-GW kits and plasticard that they use as a Rhino, and low and behold it actually looks mostly like a Rhino (proportion and general shape), then that's great!

[crazyredpraetorian]

I'm not talking about nicely done scratch built models. I am all for creative modeling. It's part of the hobby. I am addressing the fact that there are some in the 40K community that do some pretty wacky stuff to keep from buying GW models. Two examples that I have seen online recently:

1. A "Green Army Men" Scout car repainted with a few GW guns glued to it and used as a Chimera.
2. Another company's plastic British Colonials glued to GW bases. The scale was off.

[CrusherJoe]

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with using non-GW models in an army -- but only 1 or 2, perhaps as special characters/heroes/etc.

There's several cases where there's not an official model for a unit/character, or, the official model is less-than-stellar.

What you described, though, that's ridiculous. I hope you didn't see that in a tournament.

[crazyredpraetorian]

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with using non-GW models in an army -- but only 1 or 2, perhaps as special characters/heroes/etc.

There's several cases where there's not an official model for a unit/character, or, the official model is less-than-stellar.

What you described, though, that's ridiculous. I hope you didn't see that in a tournament.

No, I saw it online.......and this goober was proud of it. The responses also made me think WTF??? I don't know if the posters were over compensating to try to avoid a flame war or if they too were......mentally challenged.

The use of non-GW models to represent 1 or 2 models or a special character has been done for a long time. I have no problem with that, either. However, some of the stuff I have seen on the internet recently is just.....it's enough to make the Emperor scream "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD".

[splnes]

a friend of mine says the game sounds fun but the prices are too high and he said he would use his green army men. but that wouldnt fly with me!

[mono]

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with using non-GW models in an army -- but only 1 or 2, perhaps as special characters/heroes/etc.

Gotta agree with Joe on this...my old IG used a non-GW mini for a HSO, but it was in the process of being converted to 40K visual theme. If someone uses a non-GW mini and goes to the effort of converting it, that's cool, more power to 'em, and if it really is cool, then rock on! But a plastic army men jeep? That's just being cheap...the hobby's not a cheap one to get into, and if you want to be in it, be willing to foot the bill for it!

[Slann]

I guess it can also be in what context like I sometimes use pre painted hero scape stuff in a necromunda/=I=munda/spacequest hybrid game I run . in the campaigns I tend to use the pre painted stuff as NPC stuff just cause its hard to play both 40k and fantasy and than have to paint up npc stuff for the games I gamemaster for .

[imperialsavant]

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with using non-GW models in an army -- but only 1 or 2, perhaps as special characters/heroes/etc.

There's several cases where there's not an official model for a unit/character, or, the official model is less-than-stellar.

What you described, though, that's ridiculous. I hope you didn't see that in a tournament.

Yes I agree!
The only non GW model I have used is a female enforcer from another model co. that I use as Shira Calpurnia as there was no suitable GW model available & the rest of her squad of Arbites are GW Necromunda Enforcers.

I really hate when someone fields a heap of models that look nothing like the GW model.

[Drunkencorgimaster]

I'm not talking about nicely done scratch built models. I am all for creative modeling. It's part of the hobby. I am addressing the fact that there are some in the 40K community that do some pretty wacky stuff to keep from buying GW models. Two examples that I have seen online recently:

1. A "Green Army Men" Scout car repainted with a few GW guns glued to it and used as a Chimera.
2. Another company's plastic British Colonials glued to GW bases. The scale was off.

Yeah, I hate to be a weenie, but I have agree that it should be GW models. I recon conversions should be about 60-70% GW stuff too.

On a similar vein, what do you all think of people who use an entirely different GW model as something else? I saw a guy use an un-painted broken lascannon to "represent" a Demon Prince. My kid similarly saw a guy use an unpainted hand grenade as a Heavy Multi-melta.