Lizardmen suck.

[BilboBaggins]

At my local gaming club The Orcs and Goblins won last years Tournament and look to win this years too.
Most of the players are very experianced and the Greenskin player is no better/worse then any of them, how are they rated last?

They aren't last of all books but near the bottom of the 7th edition ones.

Heck the EWC tournaments lets them take 2500 points into battle vs 2250 of Empire/Dwarfs or 2000 of Daemons/Vampire Counts.

[thewickedworm]

The models are cool, though.

[Arromanche]

Lizardmen Suck. Prove me wrong.

Old Lizards W=9 L=13 D=3

New Lizards W=46 L=22 D=5

[Mazelf]

I wouldn't go that far.

Of the 7th Edition Books

Daemons
Vampire Counts
Dark Elves
Warriors of Chaos
High Elves
Lizardmen
Empire
Dwarfs (OK, they are version 6.5)
Orcs and Goblins

Lizards and Empire can be built nasty, but most I've seen haven't been.

hey! what about wood elves?

[BilboBaggins]

I said 7th edition, Wood Elves, Ogres, Tomb Kings, Bretonnians, Dogs of War and Chaos Dwarfs are 6th.

From what I'm hearing is Skaven is just below Dark Elves, they came out after I made the list. Beastmen (no long Beasts of Chaos) is coming out next month so lets see where they land.

[Fossil Hunter]

Nakai, The Wanderer. Enough said.

[url]http://sgabetto.free.fr/Telechargements/nakai.pdf[/url]

[Duke Rich]

Proof? Skinks.

I win.

Damn Skinks, killed both Eltharion and Stormwing, left the rest of my army (apart from the Phoenix Guard) wondering what the hell's going on as they stare at their general lying on the floor riddled with darts

[TheBitzBarn]

HAHA, sorry guys. This was really a bit of an inside joke between me and Bigred last night. I am well aware how good Lizardmen are. But it is nice to see the increased discussion on them.

So I pose a different question, do you think Lizards should take, Suarus, Skinks or Skinks/Krox for core choices?

They should take you and Smack you for heresy

[NonComPoop]

I'd say that the Lizardmen have no real apparent weaknesses. Strong holders with Saurus (or ghetto chaos warriors as we like to call them around here). They also have great hitters with skinks, terredons(nasty) stegadons , Razordons and magic.
...don't get me started on cold one riders, I'd put them only second to chaos knights as far as heavy cavalry go.

They do require a stategicly minded person to play them though, a person who is used to playing one dimensional armies tend not to do so well with them.