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    Default 8th ed number crunch

    when i started playing, i saw an excel document that numerically proved what units should be taken based on a cost-benefit analysis of point-for-effectiveness.

    i thought it was boring, and took away much of the motivation i had for building a fluff-based army. later i realized that that's a part of the hobby for a lot of people, and that it has its time and place like anything else.

    i have not done that. it's not my thing.

    but in early discussions of 8th ed, the "even a lascannon can hurt a land raider?!" discussion came up. and i got curious: just exactly how effective is a lasgun versus a landraider?

    so i did an analysis of my own.

    here are my thus-far results. i took a few units as examples -- Landraider, Dreadnought, Stompa, Leman Russ, Landspeeder Vengeance, Knight, Monolith. I used the same metrics for all decisions: rounding, what d3 and d6 meant, not accounting for cover, etc. this way i could have some raw data to start with.

    i used the following weapon statistics: SM lascannon, SM krak missile, IG battle cannon, IG lasgun, SM bolter. i really should add the Melta as well, for funsies.

    but to know the "lasgun rating" of a vehicle really puts into perspective just how beefy it is. and to know the lascannon-to-melta ratio helps understand how nasty the armor is.

    anyway... here's my initial findings:

    Land Raider
    vs Lascannon (SM) 18
    vs Lasgun 1152
    vs bolter 864
    vs krak missile (SM) 32
    vs battle cannon 32

    Dreadnought
    vs Lascannon 7
    vs Lasgun 576
    vs bolter 432
    vs krak missile 12
    vs battle cannon 12

    Leman Russ
    vs Lascannon 11
    vs Lasgun 864
    vs bolter 648
    vs krak missile 18
    vs battle cannon 18

    Landspeeder Vengeance
    vs Lascannon 8
    vs Lasgun 162
    vs bolter 97
    vs krak missile 10
    vs battle cannon 10

    Stompa
    vs Lascannon 41
    vs Lasgun 3240
    vs bolter 2430
    vs krak missile 68
    vs battle cannon 68

    Knight
    vs Lascannon 22
    vs Lasgun 1728
    vs bolter 1296
    vs krak missile 36
    vs battle cannon 36

    Monolith
    vs Lascannon 18
    vs Lasgun 1440
    vs bolter 1080
    vs krak missile 30
    vs battle cannon 30

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    i know it's simplistic, and i haven't had to use Excel or take a statistics class in nearly 20 years, so forgive any errors.


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    It would help being a bit clearer about what metric your figures are. Is it shots fired to kill (whatever you're talking about) or hits?
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