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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigred View Post
    We've just updated the registration pages for 40K, WHFB english and removed some fields.

    Attachment 19917

    That should help increase new registrations.
    You need to put a Bolded (Optional) next to the "Real Name" part. That is the part that REALLY scares most people

    Ashendant, can you give me more detail on these:

    * The Category page in the Fantasy Lexi that was recently broken by an update and never fixed?
    This is recent and has appeared roughly at the same time as the Recent Changes gained dark brown boxes around each entry. The problem here is that the Category page is listing every deleted and typoed category(red links with 0 members) in it when it didn't used to. The 40K Category page has no such problems. As this is a important tool I use to keep every category maintained it has become unusuable


    * The fact that the Fantasy Lexi needs to be split in two for both settings?

    We didn't update anything on the wikis before this weekend for a while. So if either of those issues are recent we will have to do some digging to see what's going on.
    This is a very old issue that has been a problem since the 2015, but has been tolerable, with the problems becoming more egregious with time and new releases. The full list of problem can be found in this thread and there are many:

    http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.ne...e-split-in-two

    To be short about it: Two different settings sharing a wiki, that are extremely different in nature, but sharing many of their names results in a sub-standard wiki that needs to be split.

    Using the Import and Export tool we can easily transplant most of the content from one wiki to the other. I already made a list of categories that can be put on that tool to transfer it. The only problem with this one is the images, but Morbus Iff linked me a tool that could be used for it.

    In general all the Lexicanum wikis were really out of date, so there will be some teething issues we have to work through with such a large version update of botht he core wiki and the extensnions. But fundamentally the wikis work. We also got the series of Lexicanum articles rolling again with Games Workshop and they should be appearing regularly on Warhammer-community.com.

    -Larry
    I don't think the Fantasy Lexi is ready for that.
    Last edited by Ashendant; 05-14-2018 at 12:41 PM.

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    Ok,I did some digging:

    You need to put a Bolded (Optional) next to the "Real Name" part. That is the part that REALLY scares most people
    For now I want to just take off all the extraneous biography,CV, etc stuff and see what happens. I am very leery of letting people register anonymously and potential encourage vandalism. Anyone with a legitimate desire to add onto Lexicanum shouldn't have any issue leaving their real name privately for the admins. It's not revealed publicly. I want to leave things like this for a bit and monitor registrations.

    * The Category page in the Fantasy Lexi that was recently broken by an update and never fixed?
    The Mediawiki developers did some arguing about 2 years ago on this and decided that 0 member categories should exist and be visible on the special:category page.

    https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/324486/

    Before this update mediawiki used to not show zero member categories, but apparently there are some cases wher it's important to see them.

    https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T12915

    Exactly why the 40K wiki isn't displaying them is a mystery as both wikis are using the most recent 1.30 version.

    * The fact that the Fantasy Lexi needs to be split in two for both settings?
    This is a major change as we have to set up an entirely different wiki, and update all the others to link into it. That is not an easy task. It is marked for consideration.

    -Larry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigred View Post
    For now I want to just take off all the extraneous biography,CV, etc stuff and see what happens. I am very leery of letting people register anonymously and potential encourage vandalism. Anyone with a legitimate desire to add onto Lexicanum shouldn't have any issue leaving their real name privately for the admins. It's not revealed publicly. I want to leave things like this for a bit and monitor registrations.
    It doesn't really matter since people can just remove it afterwards. The only thing it does is scare people from joining, since a lot of people don't want things associated with their real name.

    The Mediawiki developers did some arguing about 2 years ago on this and decided that 0 member categories should exist and be visible on the special:category page.

    https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/324486/

    Before this update mediawiki used to not show zero member categories, but apparently there are some cases wher it's important to see them.

    https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T12915

    Exactly why the 40K wiki isn't displaying them is a mystery as both wikis are using the most recent 1.30 version.
    The problem is that it's listing deleted categories and categories that had a typo, which by default have 0 members.

    The discussion you posted was about categories that have their own article but have 0 members in them. The 40k Lexi Categories lists 0 members categories correctly.

    This is a major change as we have to set up an entirely different wiki, and update all the others to link into it. That is not an easy task. It is marked for consideration.

    -Larry
    Thank you. Something that is very hard to do is much better than something that's impossible to do.

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    Well, the bad news is that two (minimum) out of three account creation requests today were obvious spambots that managed to get around the Recaptcha...

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    That's interesting - Recaptcha 2.0 is considered to be un-broken as of now.

    But then again, there is nothing that can be done about actual human spammers registering.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigred View Post
    That's interesting - Recaptcha 2.0 is considered to be un-broken as of now.

    But then again, there is nothing that can be done about actual human spammers registering.


    -Larry
    Well I accepted two accounts that seem like they could be spammers, but so far they haven't made a single edit.

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    It seems the toolbar in the edit mode has disappeared. Don't know what its proper name is, the one with the lots of buttons, for example for the signature...

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    Unusual accumulation of "users" tring to register with Russian e-mail adresses (.ru) --> Some of them turn up on spambot lists when I search for their e-mails. So I will only very reluctantly approve new Russian origin accounts.

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    Rejected six out of seven new account requests because some of their details turned up on spambot lists on google. Is this a new wave of spambot attacks or has this something to do with with the Recaptcha update?

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    Where do you see these account requests ?
    In the english lex ?

    Because in the german wh40k-lex I have no account requests in the last 30 days. I can't take a look such long back, but I believe make it 60 days.
    "Die Menschheit ist zu chaotisch, um wahre Ordnung anzunehmen." / "Humanity is to chaotic for true order." Perturabo, 999.M30

 

 
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