This is what grates my gears...
Imagine we are all sat in bugmans drinking beer and having this conversation.
The group has started to take camps around those who think massive change is a foot (bold visionaries all) and those who think a more moderate tinkering to the system is likely (the flat earth brigade).
It's all going swimmingly when Mr Mystery slams down his fruit shoot, clambers onto the bench to look me in the eye and delivers his liar liar your pants are on fire speech. Stunned silence, a chuckle into a beer glass, sidewise glances , perhaps a slap to the forehead. Chaps, it wouldn't happen in real life because we have manners and a general fear of looking a **** and getting a bloody nose ! So don't behave like it on a forum. It's rude.
RUDE