Australian prices for new Chaos marine minis OMG O can not afford this.

[imperialpower]

It would be nice If GW did some kind of sale or promo price for it's new models rather than just seeing how much they can get away with charging people, you know it's bad when you add two or three items to the basket online and it turns out to be over a £100.00.

[daboarder]

Unemployment here pays about £60 a weekish, minimum wage for forty hours is about £240? gross. The average wage here is essentially meaningless as geography, and the city skew them all over.

Not to mention that everything else is so expensive that trying to live on minimum wage of benefits is practically impossible (was a student have done both)

as too wage issues, Gothammer had it right. I'm just tired of importers trying to justify obscene pricing with "minimum wage" logic. sigh well if were lucky that inquiry into digital media discrepancies will force the government to do something.

[Gir]

I'm a little confused. The prices are inline with everything else that is similar from GW. There's no change here.

Also, minimum wage in Australia is $15 an hour (A pit higher than the $5-6 odd for the US), and the average wage is $68,000 a year, a bit higher than $30,000-$50,000 you claim.

[daboarder]

I'm a little confused. The prices are inline with everything else that is similar from GW. There's no change here.

Also, minimum wage in Australia is $15 an hour (A pit higher than the $5-6 odd for the US), and the average wage is $68,000 a year, a bit higher than $30,000-$50,000 you claim.

That average is considerably inflated by the mining magnates like the bloated rineheart of the idiotic palmer.

not to mention the fact that someone thought it was appropriate for gillard to get paid more than barrack Obama.

[DF3CT]

That is ludicrous pricing.

[faolan]

I'm an American. I live in Australia, and have for several years now.

Don't give me "Australian's make more so they pay more". It's ludicrous. I had a higher standard of living as a married student in the US living in a major city (Portland, Oregon) than I do in Australia where my wife is currently making $75k a year. Because once you translate the increased prices here, and massively higher tax rates for what's honestly lower levels of services, $75k is closer to $25k. And that's in the "middle class" band as far as getting screwed over by the gov't in paying higher taxes and getting fewer services.

Minimum wage here is ~30-35k AUD a year, and you can imagine, given the translation, what standard of living that equates to in this country.

[helvexis]

It's all well and good saying Australians earn a lot more money than uk and us which is actually true but the cost of living is so much higher I pay 450 a week rent for a 3 bedroom house and that's not anywhere clos to being on the expensive side. You can buy 6 eggs for less than a pound in the uk wile the cheapest I've seen 6 eggs where I live is $2:30

You can't justify doing your pricing on income averages alone its ridiculous. Taking the minimum cost of living into account

[helvexis]

Sorry about a double post but a Krieg guardsman box including shipping is less than $10 more expensive than a box of Cadians
Cataphraacti terminators with the special weapon are in fact cheaper ... A leman Russ is cheaper as well ... This all includes shipping ... So Australia is getting seriously shafted on rices

[Gir]

I'm an American. I live in Australia, and have for several years now.

Don't give me "Australian's make more so they pay more". It's ludicrous. I had a higher standard of living as a married student in the US living in a major city (Portland, Oregon) than I do in Australia where my wife is currently making $75k a year. Because once you translate the increased prices here, and massively higher tax rates for what's honestly lower levels of services, $75k is closer to $25k. And that's in the "middle class" band as far as getting screwed over by the gov't in paying higher taxes and getting fewer services.

Really? You used to be an American, and your a student, and you believe this? I guess you don't need that free health care or sustainable student loan than.

The only real problem with Australia is the housing marked, especially in Melbourne, which is extremely ****ed. This is why at 24 I'm still living with my parents, as I'm saving for a good deposit on building a house.

[Daemonette666]

It's all well and good saying Australians earn a lot more money than uk and us which is actually true but the cost of living is so much higher I pay 450 a week rent for a 3 bedroom house and that's not anywhere clos to being on the expensive side. You can buy 6 eggs for less than a pound in the uk wile the cheapest I've seen 6 eggs where I live is $2:30

You can't justify doing your pricing on income averages alone its ridiculous. Taking the minimum cost of living into account

I completely agree. I know this is a niche market, and a luxury good, luxury hobby. Radio controlled planes and cars are also, but compared to that, GW has made it so you can not even purchase from distributors based in the UK, Europe, etc and have it shipped over here. Atleast with other gaming systems, or hobbies, you have the choice option to source out a cheaper price (including postage) from another seller/stockist based in another country for the same goods.

I know people who still work or used to work for GW (no names), but the Australian and NZ markets are the worst performing markets in the world for GW.

I have been buying parts from Chapterhouse, Anvil industries, Kromlech, Maelstrom Games, Puppet Wars, Meow-meow, and Hasslefree miniatures to get parts and complete minis to represent 40K Chaos Marines, sisters of battle, etc.

Except for my recent purchase to Forge World, I have not spent as much as I normally do towards 40K, and most of what I bought has been on 3rd party products. I have even expanded into 2 new gaming systems (Dystopian Wars & DZC) instead of building up my 40K armies.

When the average weekly grocery bill for 2 people (let alone a family with kids) is about $250 - 300 dollars and I am not buying expensive brands or luxury goods, just the basics, you have to wonder how much is left each week for your hobby. Rents are high, petrol ranges between AU$1.50 to AU$1.80 per litre depending upon the day of the week you fill the petrol tank up.

The council rates for the 2 bedroom unit I and my partner are living in, are $2500 a year. Strata fees are about $500 a year, add to this the the home loan, cost of electricity, gas (not petrol for USA members), basic private health insurance ($780/ year in order to avoid the medicare tax levy) water, etc, and I and my partner have about $200.00 a fortnight if we are lucky to put away for emergencies like medical bills, pet bills, spend on my hobby, and anything that we have not budgeted for.

Gir, not everyone in Australia earns $60,000 - $70,000 a year. Maybe if you worked in an industry where you lived remotely, had specialist skills, or worked in a dangerous environment. A hairdresser, a sales clerk, a call center worker, a factory worker, even a office manager would earn anything between the 35,000 and 50,000 a year I mentioned. Plumbers, engineers, mines workers, oil platform riggers, electrician, etc earn the money $60,000 and more a year. Even they have to pay way more taxes, and the cost of living for them is just as expensive.

I would be willing to pay AU$60.00 for the new Helldrake, AU$40.00 for 5 Havocs, AU$50.00 for 3 Mutilators or Obliterators, but not the prices they have listed on the Australian website.

I do not even think you can order anything from the US or UK website and have it delivered to Australia. I am sure GW has thought of that already. You can still order from FW though, but their prices are starting to get a lot higher now.