Eldar Rumour Titbits

[Pssyche]

Assault Wave Serpent with what appears to be a Guardian riding Shotgun!

WOO-HOO!

[lastlostboy]

Though any news on my beloved spiders? Their page was up, but the text to small for me to read.

Actually, yes, sort of.

GW leaked the 1.0 Errata:
[url]http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3250082a_Eldar_v1.0_June13.pdf[/url]

So no rending for spiders, it seems.

Also jetpack units, hit and run, battle focus.

[Zachar]

but but but there is only one shadow weaver mentioned, so where did You get the info regarding spiders ??

[Grey Mage]

I note it doesnt say small blast, just blast on that too- maybe the errata is its a large blast?

[murgel]

You can look at it this way: regular armies, like marines, deal with enemy armour by mixing in a few meltas in each squad. And those meltas are cheap because you only take a few and the cost of each squad increases only by a small margin.

I agree, this is the reason why most FD squads you see are small AND an Exarch is only taken for the sole purpose of manning the Aegis gun.
As you said, this is true for tournament gaming. But please remember, 40k is not really a good tournament game as GW stresses again and again it is meant for narrative gaming.
Besides that, I feel people are underestimating the usability of the FD. With the new codex this might change but with the last one they have been my primary shooting unit. Because after they had their go, even Hawks could clean up the leftovers....

Eldar, due to that extravagant 'specialisation' of aspects, are not allowed to do that.

This is not completely correct. You could take 2 FGs in a stormguardian squad. Which I have done often. And with the option of up to 20 men in that it worked ok in popping a vehicle and then assaulting the remains.


WARNING!

The German GW site features pictures of the "new" Avengers box, more precisely the sprues in it.
There are only 4 regular DA and one exarch body in this box!
You can not build a full 10 men squad with 2 boxes but will need 3.


Talking about price increase.

[Grey Mage]

Wait, so its a new sprue?

[cebalrai]

If that guardian cant assault out of that waveserpent Ill eat one of my socks on camera. Seriously.

And yeah... 3+ save on fire dragons? Hell yes! Now they wont die to whirlwind templates and heavy flamers after they come out of their transport. One of hte only units I had in a falcon in my footdar.

I love Warp Spiders... theyre T3 with a 3+, never had a problem keeping them alive as long as an equally sized unit of marines- I also play SWs- so I agree.... shouldnt be an issue here.

Though any news on my beloved spiders? Their page was up, but the text to small for me to read.

And now Fire Dragons die less from the Land Raiders they explode. I think overall it's a good rule update for them which will hopefully internally balance the codex a bit. I think now they'll feel a little bit less like an Ork suicide squad.

Actually, yes, sort of.

GW leaked the 1.0 Errata:
[url]http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3250082a_Eldar_v1.0_June13.pdf[/url]

So no rending for spiders, it seems.

Also jetpack units, hit and run, battle focus.

My gut tells me Spiders will have a combined fire option similar to Shadow Spectres.

Side note: I have a corsair army. Anyone know how new codex rules and updates to wargear will impact them?

[Carstens]

WARNING!

The German GW site features pictures of the "new" Avengers box, more precisely the sprues in it.
There are only 4 regular DA and one exarch body in this box!
You can not build a full 10 men squad with 2 boxes but will need 3.


Talking about price increase.

As far as I can count there's 5 normal bodies and 1 exarch body on the sprue. granted only 5 legs, but I think that's always been the case.

[Tyrendian]

As far as I can count there's 5 normal bodies and 1 exarch body on the sprue. granted only 5 legs, but I think that's always been the case.

yup - I don't see anything that would make murgel's post true either... and yes I'm also looking at the german site... so no alarm there...

[SeekingOne]

Thanks murgel, it's so nice to see a non-dismissive responce for a change

I agree, this is the reason why most FD squads you see are small AND an Exarch is only taken for the sole purpose of manning the Aegis gun.

Yes, and BTW Dragon Exarch can't have Tank Hunters or Crack Shot power anymore. Just a small cherry on top of the cake, so to speak )

As you said, this is true for tournament gaming. But please remember, 40k is not really a good tournament game as GW stresses again and again it is meant for narrative gaming.

I do remember that. And I'd actually go as far as to suggest that GW games are not meant for gaming at all They exist mostly because they give GW customers an illusion that the models they buy have some purpose other than their own desire to have them just because they're cool. That, and the fact that a codex works as a sort of "framework" or a "guideline" for a collection, that pushes a person to buy many more models than (s)he'd ever buy if (s)he were just collecting.

I bet GW would be totally happy if their customers would've built massive collections, amassed huge armies, and gathered together occasionally to show off those collections & armies, and... didn't play at all, moving straight to final stage of bragging over a pint ))

This is not completely correct. You could take 2 FGs in a stormguardian squad. Which I have done often. And with the option of up to 20 men in that it worked ok in popping a vehicle and then assaulting the remains.

Right, and to do that you don't need Fire Dragons, do you? And that is precisely my point. With the Fire Dragons now being considerably less cost-effective, people are likely to start switching to other ways of dealing with armour. Especially since with the new dex you (hopefully) won't need a FD exarch to man the quad gun, as there would be other, more elegant ways of dealing with fliers.