FW Apocalypse is nigh!

[eldargal]

Seems the only fans are, unsuprisingly, here on BoLS Forum.

Right, because it isn't like there isn't a storm of sh!t with every GW release regardless.

[lattd]

Shadow spectres have been updated and you can now give an autarch the shadow spectre jump pack, which combined with the mask of the laughing good means even better solitaire, smaller foot print but slightly worse cover save.

[eldargal]

Points decrease is good, losing inv save to cover save is irritating, losing range increase on ghostlight is just stupid. So they are now more easily killed and can't increase the range on their weapons to avoid nasty templates.

Edit: Ok so they also gained Fear and the diffuse firing mode dropped one Ap to AP4. The new Exarch power Shadow of Death is nice but why would you want the SS in close combat to boost Fear?
Oh and focused prism thingy has the Lance rule, meaning a minimal squad of 3 gets an S8 AP1 lance shot which isn't bad.

[Dragannia]

Points decrease is good, losing inv save to cover save is irritating, losing range increase on ghostlight is just stupid. So they are now more easily killed and can't increase the range on their weapons to avoid nasty templates.

Edit: Ok so they also gained Fear and the diffuse firing mode dropped one Ap to AP4. The new Exarch power Shadow of Death is nice but why would you want the SS in close combat to boost Fear?
Oh and focused prism thingy has the Lance rule, meaning a minimal squad of 3 gets an S8 AP1 lance shot which isn't bad.

They don't. You reduce the AP by 1 OR add Strength by 1. One or the other. They're horrible now, worse than before IMO.

Before they had the ability to stay reasonably long ranged. They've lost that now. AP4 blast is what they'll be used for, at 18". They lost the blast on the Ghostlight. On average, you're getting 4 hits, and they use MAJORITY, not the Prism Blaster, so they start at Strength 6 AP 3. You're getting, on average, Str 10 AP 3 lance shot, or Str 8 AP 1 Lance. An 18" Brightlance at AP 1 is not worth 200 points.

They're like...crappy Vespid now.

[z3n1st]

Note sure you are correct in it auto going to 6/3 50% is not majority, and if it was then 7/2 is ALSO the majority. (assuming you bought the blaster for the Exarch)

Min squad of 3 with 4 shots and all hit could potentially use the 7/2 profile, each hit would be added (so 4 modifiers, not three; its 1 modifier for each hit not each hit past the first). so Str 10 AP 1 lance shot in a three man team with Exarch. That's also not 200pts its 115pts for that death dealing. At first glance it looks meh, but its a serious AV14 killing unit for 115 pts (remember they can also deep strike). Also 18" range is misleading since they have Battlefocus and Fleet as well.

[eldargal]

They don't. You reduce the AP by 1 OR add Strength by 1. One or the other. They're horrible now, worse than before IMO.

Before they had the ability to stay reasonably long ranged. They've lost that now. AP4 blast is what they'll be used for, at 18". They lost the blast on the Ghostlight. On average, you're getting 4 hits, and they use MAJORITY, not the Prism Blaster, so they start at Strength 6 AP 3. You're getting, on average, Str 10 AP 3 lance shot, or Str 8 AP 1 Lance. An 18" Brightlance at AP 1 is not worth 200 points.

They're like...crappy Vespid now.

Damnit you're right, for ****s sake Forge World.

[Poseidal]

They're also six meltabombs a piece for something that's not really more survivable than a Dire Avenger or Howling Banshee.

[Mr Mystery]

[tinfoilhat]I wonder if they're planning on more Eldar book stuff in the future. And are ensuring they make stuff suck now, so they can soup it back up shortly, ensuring moar sales[/tinfoilhat]

[Thaldin]

Glad I never invested in anything FW does (other than a couple wave serpents back in the day) for Eldar... they are really bending them over the table.

[Belial69]

Anybody else notice how gw are taking the nerf bat to eldar, the very last codex to come out, whilst at the same time new marine pics get leaked a fortnight earlier than usual?