Copy Of Tyranid Codex In Hand

[daboarder]

True... Anyone else miss the toughness buff from 4th edition?

Immunity to massed las fire....god yes

[kublade]

We also have no clue what the stat lines are on Hive Tyrants, Carnifexes, nearly anything in the book. What's going to make them more survivable on the board, some of these things pointed out sounds good on paper, but what will make them survive against the hundreds of ways we already lose our MCs?

[DarkLink]

Yeah, and from what I'm hearing the new monobuild codex might by some Flying Tyrants/Crones, a bunch of gaunts, and a wall of cheap Carnifexes. The question is, can you avoid the monobuild?

[kjolnir]

well we can by them fleet, thats actually not that bad.

Sure, for 15 pts per model. Ugh.

[daboarder]

eh it may have possibilities, but likely the fex build will be something like talons+Stranglethorn.

though I'd like to see how viable the ScreamerkillerStar could be with pair scything talons and fleet....

[kjolnir]

True but from what we know hive tyrants are 160, wings are 30 or 40. I used to have to pay 275 for a Flyrant anyways, this will likely cost a similar amount, while being considerably better in CC. I also think that Tyrants will follow great deamons and see a stat boost or two. I'm hoping for another wound, they should be on par with any other new MC.

I'll bet they don't change stats at all, except for maybe a drop in attacks which is "compensated" for by taking an extra set of CCWs.

[kjolnir]

eh it may have possibilities, but likely the fex build will be something like talons+Stranglethorn.

though I'd like to see how viable the ScreamerkillerStar could be with pair scything talons and fleet....

Why talons? They're already AP2. Talons don't give you anything else now.

[katurian]

Reposting my post from Warseer:

From the BRB about generating psychic powers:

"In some codexes, a Psyker will have a specific psychic power, or set of psychic powers - where this is the case it will be clearly stated in the relevant codex. Otherwise, a Psyker generates random psychic powers from amongst the psychic disciplines known to him."

At the top of the entry with the psychic powers in the codex, it says, "Tyranid Psykers use the Powers of the Hive Mind, which is treated as a psychic discipline for all rules purposes."

Seems pretty clear to me, BRB powers are gone unless the individual Psyker entries say otherwise.

I don't know, I think I disagree here. Usually each psyker's profile lists the specific discipline that they can generate psychic powers from in their entry though admittedly the Chaos codexes did state the BRB powers in the table. The Dark Angels and SM 'dex did list them only in the profiles. Though they did not have their own psy tables.

I think it's too early to throw out BRB powers all together. That line at the top is a little too vague to put the total kabosh on it. I think it's a clarification to say that while Tyranids are not "psykers" like say a Librarian who uses the Warp to manifest psy powers, this is a distinction of fluff and should not result in different treatment for all rule purposes.

Am I misreading this? Thoughts? Prayers?

[daboarder]

Why talons? They're already AP2. Talons don't give you anything else now.

so I'm not spending points on a gun beast really

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Do the new FMCs have any special rules about landing/grounding tests? Doesn't really look like they could walk/slither on the ground.