Here's a suggestion: why don't we all chill the hell out and play Warhammer the way we wanna play Warhammer? Discuss bones of contention with opponents and come to a consensus if things are really so disorientating and confusing for you. I mean, it's a wargame with toy soldiers, not an intense legal battle.
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Well said.
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Yes, there are many ways to play, Pew-Pew, and players decide how to play all the time.
But like it or not, "Normal 40K" as you put it (MRB two player versus) is the mainstay, of which there is little agreement, who wants to discuss/debate for an hour before a game on which, what, and how they are going to play?
What a waste of energy.
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Players want the "Game Company" to lead them (answer questions.)
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Compromise is a huge issue.
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ROFL, take the Maths complaints to Wikipedia... (I would hope the both of you get the referencing of the cross referencing of the cross referenced reference I presented, lol)
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It is not just Tournament players (I do not play in Tournaments) it is the state of the game in general rules wise, that effects ALL players in some way.
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I would challenge you to present a list of ALL the rules publications and what format said rules are in (E-Book, Book, Rules in box only leaflet, etc) that are to be used in current 40K. Please, because I do not have that kind of time...
Okay, seriously, am I high right now?
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Kind of thanks? (I think I forgot to put 7e (6.1e) rumor on my original post, sorry to everyone).
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1) GW's new strategy is vomiting out rules faster than ever on multiple platforms (E-Books, rules only in box leaflets, Physical Books, etc.), which is creating exponential problems.
2) Wheat and Chessboard example, which players do not seem to see happening, but tournaments, and the larger more organised 40K communities see it.
3) The ENTIRE community should get/band together and make a decision on which rules to use/not use, which will help quell the exponential problems.
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Yes, "...everyone just go about your business, so long as you have an opinion on the matter. Everyone else needs to form one."
And I would then add; Note; Pew-Pew not the topic.
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I really got a kick out of this, thank you very much for the streamlining, as I was half asleep and on bedrest when I wrote the original post.
No they don't. If the internet has taught us anything, it's that players want to lead the game company. Which would be fine, except people don't know what they want and as a whole gaming community can agree on nothing. That much I can agree with you on. But that does not mean GW should dictate one style of play. It also undermines your point that we should all unite one way or the other. That simply won't happen.
GW has recognised that gamers want different things, different ways to play and is capitalising on it. Want to field every single model you have without worrying too much about points? Here, have Apocalypse. Really want to re-fight the Horus Heresy? Go for it. Have burning desire to play through the opening stages of a planetary invasion? Knock yourself out with Planetstrike. Variety is the spice of life, people get to play with the bits they want. If you are spending an hour debating which type of game to play, I politely suggest that the issue is not with GW but with you and/or the people you are gaming with.
Chief Educator of the Horsemen of Derailment "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought, which they avoid." SOREN KIERKEGAARD
My friends and I enjoy the current release strategy and we love new stuff like the Imperial Knights coming out. It adds more variety to our games. If "The Community" decides not to follow those rules, why should my friends and I be excluded from the wider Warhammer scene simply for playing the game we want to play. Trying to artificially impose some nonsensical and subjective version of what the meta should be (in your eyes) will just exclude people who don't want to play like that. It's contrary to the "play how you want" idea that's been central to Warhammer since its inception.
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Great point,
pack up stuff,
go to location
what rules would you like to play?
discuss/debate for an hour or so
read/check all the rules publications your opponent is going to use, and give all your rules publications you are going to use to your opponent to read/check
discuss Q&A any issues either of you may have
set-up
play
pack up
go home
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Yep, you are right those three added steps are not to much to ask for a game of toy soldiers...