You need to read the background old boy. Your first paragraph shows you haven't really read it. They can die as well usually they get whisked off by Sigmar for reforging but if that gets disrupted they can be killed.
You need to read the background old boy. Your first paragraph shows you haven't really read it. They can die as well usually they get whisked off by Sigmar for reforging but if that gets disrupted they can be killed.
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They're flesh and blood, they can die. The Reforging happens because at the moment of their death, Sigmar snatches them back to his realm and fixes them up. If Sigmar isn't able to teleport them away safely, as has happened in the fluff, they just die.
The art, fluff and models is really consistent, you just have to, you know, read it to know that.
I've lost count of the amount of times Erik has criticised the fluff of AoS while making it perfectly clear he's not actually read it. Not even the free Primer.
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Eirk is, in a way, right.
The essence of what makes a Stormcast is a soul, the body being re-created to suit Sigmar's needs (re-forged from the template the soul provides, hence the retention of skin colour etc, this is covered in some detail in the books now).
Thusly what makes a Stormcast eternal (if you'll excuse the pun) is not flesh snd blood. That said, each reforged body IS (admittedly invested with Sigmar's power) none the less a squishy sack of organs and bones, capable of being hurt and killed. And as has been pointed out if the soul is interrupted during departure, bad stuff happens.
As a side note the minis are uniform, however in the fluff they are not, running the size range just like Humans (just bigger) and their armour and even weapons are forged unique to the stormcast during the re-forging (again described in detail during the books).
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The flesh also gets telepoted up to Sigmaron at the moment of death though, so their body is usually still there to some extent to be reforged, he's dead wrong to insist, again and again, that there isn't a body in the suit of armour. That body is invested with the power of Sigmar, stronger and tougher than any normal mortal could be but it is still just flesh and blood at the end of the day.
It is just the soul that goes off to get a spangly new meatsuit - the description of one reforging is quite reminiscent of Frank's resurrection in Hellraiser.
But for that matter, all souls in GW games are functionally immortal - in AoS they either sink into Nagash's clutches, or are taken by the Dark Gods. Stormcast interrupt that process so long as the Lord Relictor is up and about (at least, according to the Stormcast book)
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I was actually thinking about this thread recently and how people go into long detailed explanations why Fenrisians just absolutely never ever are allowed to be black (because science).
But never see the same level of dedication to refuting people from Tallarn & Catachan - both rather sunny places - consistently being portrayed as white.
Is Catachan sunny? I always got the impression it was super dense jungle and therefore everyone on Catachan was fighting through the shadows and plant life under the canopy?
There is no excuse for Tallarn, although their descriptions in the background are as middle eastern in their appearance I think (even prior to the virus bombing). The 'official' GW website image for Tallarns has them painted as darker than Cadians, but not that dark-skinned.
[url]https://www.games-workshop.com/en-FI/Tallarn-Squad[/url]
Out of curiosity, does anyone know how long it took humans to evolve different skin tones? Is 39,000 years enough time for that to happen basically, or even 10,000 years. I reckon in the more extreme environments it likely would as the selection pressures would be greater.
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10,000 years probably isn't enough for a massive change, especially if you've got humans living a lot longer than our ancestors were but, yeah, in a very extreme environment with a shortened life span you'd see adaptation, you'd also image in the far future there were would be some sort of genetic tinkering or selection to ensure the necessary traits are there too
Defo black Catachans there at least one black model in Codex Catachans and black jungle fighters on the cover. I thought Tallarns were Arabic hence the darker skin tone the whole Lawrence of Arabia theme.
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