I was in the game store the other night for game night and after we had finished up our game me and my opponent got to talking. I'm new to the store and pretty new to 5th edition, having only started collecting again back at xmas time. Let's just say I got my butt whooped. Anyway the guy offers me a rematch next week saying he'll bring his Chaos Marines and I'll probably whoop his but next time. I ask him what he means and we talk for a bit and he says look you'll what I mean.
Woah did I miss something
Idk when I started playing in 3rd ed it was right before the previous CSM book came out and after that they were the be all, end all army to beat. I know they got nerfed in their current book but are they really that bad? I've seen it both ways in the forums from people saying they are the among the worst armies in the game to others still saying they are one of the most dangerous books out there. I was wondering what people thought?
Against them: Codex Chaos Marines was written during the dark days of Jervis-Hammer, meaning that everything in the book is overpriced compared to its loyalist counterpart. Being already expensive points wise means they will bring in some of the lowest body counts in the game. They have no decent fast attack selection, save the bikes who are considerably overpriced for their mediocre stat raise. They have no psychic defense to speak of leaving them vulnerable. Most of the units in the book aren't worth fielding because many have similar roles to other units such as bezerkers and possessed.
For them: C'mon its CSM! They're the elite of the elite right? They have some of the nastiest HQ, Troops, and Heavy Support selections in the game in the form of Demon Princes, Plague Marines, Khrone Bezerkers, Obliterators, and Defilers. Demons are still a nasty bomb that allow you to tie up units on a whim and claim objectives late in the game. Lash and Warptime are among the nastiest psychic powers in the game.
So which is right?